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Some people just want imaginary companions
10:07 AM
You don't have to go making alternate identities from your imaginary companions.
10:08 AM
And you don't have to be ready to give your tulpas half of your life. Tulpas are for people, not for your ideology.
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@Blitzeen there's plenty of hosts who claim that tulpas are people/equal to them/etc., but would never consider giving their tulpas any major control over their life, or anything like that
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💜 Hibiki 💜 & {Luna} 8/15/2018 11:57 AM
It makes me sad when I think about all the tulpa out there that don't get a fair shake at life.
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Honestly, I'd actually love to give my Tulpa a small part of controlling my life but that would mean having to explain to a lot of people and also being able to switch successfully for more than a few minutes or- switch at all really
11:59 AM
But yeah, it's... it's a little sad
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Why would you have to explain it to people?
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💜 Hibiki 💜 & {Luna} 8/15/2018 12:00 PM
Yea
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Um- Hm
12:00 PM
Okay, it made sense in my head xD
12:00 PM
Uhh
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shrugs I guess not? xD
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But like The second point still stands I've read so much and heard so much and still don't understand how switching works much less if you even can fully, 100% switch places with your Tulpa-
12:01 PM
It's really confusing
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We've pretty much completely thrown our host's future on its head by making our own decisions and such, she's given us a lot of control
12:02 PM
you wouldn't need to switch so much as your tulpa learn to front well
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which is the level we're currently at
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well, we've already learned
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💜 Hibiki 💜 & {Luna} 8/15/2018 12:02 PM
It's where we are at too. (edited)
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Oh, uh... What's fronting again?
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💜 Hibiki 💜 & {Luna} 8/15/2018 12:03 PM
Fronting could be considered either switching or possession.
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Being in control mentally and physically
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Fronting isn't switching
12:03 PM
unless it includes the host leaving the front
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I mean, we've done a fair bit of possession
12:04 PM
I think
12:04 PM
Possession is kind of... I dunno... because it's really easy for me to break out of it and take full control again And I'm not sure what to do about that (edited)
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Practice
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Yeah, I-I guess
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It's always going to be easy for you to take control again, it just takes practice on your tulpa's end and mental discipline on your end
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💜 Hibiki 💜 & {Luna} 8/15/2018 12:05 PM
Yea, It's really easy for Ashley to take control back as well. But I think we are getting better at it (edited)
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I suppose I need a lot of patience, then I'm not bad at it, though
12:05 PM
It's easy to get started but to hold it is like... I guess I worry or think a bit too much
12:06 PM
Mental Discipline...
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Right
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Thanks
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If your tulpa practices fronting then they should get better at being the dominant thinker for longer. The obstacles against that become easier to manage, and it becomes less likely that they can't stay in control while something distracting occurs. Though, it takes plenty of time and effort to get to that point, don't expect it to be a quick process
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💜 Hibiki 💜 & {Luna} 8/15/2018 12:10 PM
We actually have the opposite problem as well. Sometimes I will accidentally take control away from Ashley(The host). Will that get better with practice as well because Ashley's mind is already used to fronting for decades?
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My host does his best to give me a fair share of time to do what I please with, even with our now-busier schedule and everything
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Do you take control because you're overactive and start doing things without noticing?
12:12 PM
I feel like that sort of thing would go away as you mature, probably
12:12 PM
and become more of an intentional process
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💜 Hibiki 💜 & {Luna} 8/15/2018 12:13 PM
Yea, that's basically what happens!!
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https://community.tulpa.info/thread-i-simply-need-insight There's an interesting thread up right now that I'm heavily interested in responding to, but it seems a bit off. I think he's come to the semi-right place as what he had was technically a wonderland, but he's not really seeking tulpa advice. He's seeking advice on how to restore his wonderland and be able to get back into it, but it seems more of a lucid-dream sort of thing. Not too sure how to approach this. (edited)
This is what I've written on a thread on 4chan, asking for questions. A user mentioned "tulpaforcers" and a "wonderland." That eventually led me here. I'd simply just like some insight as to if this i
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I put it in the Lounge forum
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Gotcha, it seems more appropriate in there. Hopefully he gets his answers, since I'm not too sure how to approach this situation.
5:58 PM
If no one gets back to him within a few days with a decent response, I'll take it upon myself to tell them that this isn't really the place for dream assistance and that he can probably get into tulpas if he wants to recreate it without the use of dreams.
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I don't see why tulpas would be required to recreate an imaginary world
5:59 PM
DreamViews would probably be more useful to him
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It was very vivid, so it could be a potential wonderland if they really worked toward it. On top of it, they could have created a tulpa to help get into that place.
6:00 PM
Dreamviews?
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A forum about dreams, I don't know much about it
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That might be the best solution. We'll wait and see then.
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its a lucid dreaming forum
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Ya know, I hope I don't end up the rincewind of tulpamancy
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hey, i get that reference
2:52 AM
and it's fairly unlikely
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most likely but what if Hanna is just too cool for my mind to really handle and I'll be stuck with an awesome tulpa just out of reach
2:56 AM
I know I should make some progress soon but I'm getting impatient
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found this neat little tip/guide thing https://tulpa.io/discuss/threads/first-tactile-imposition-the-two-finger-trick.250/ I think I actualy saw something and it was pretty cool
Seeing a trend? This exercise is actually quite similar to the two-dot trick for visual imposition, as you might guess. It's nothing huge, but it...
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huh neat how that stuff happenes I was just thinking I might try to skip getting much better with visualization and go for visual imposition
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bduddy #Diana# 8/16/2018 6:55 PM
cool! doing stuff together like that is always great.
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@Aren - “Rincewind of tulpamancy”, that’s probably my born-human Kevin.
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V∆L-H∆L8 8/17/2018 3:49 AM
Awesome
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I have been thinking, recently, about the nature of tulpamancy, and I've been wondering if to some degree, that there are more people entering tulpamancy and "discovering" a tendency to think as multiple people rooted in their heads, more than there are people entering tulpamancy without such a tendency and building it up through forcing.
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We've all mostly had imaginary friends when kids
8:45 PM
I think its an already developped old skill we lost over time
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When I had an imaginary friend, it was a constructed and controlled "imaginary character" who, because there was some idea of "having" an imaginary friend, I called it an imaginary friend. For me, it was not much like a tulpa. (edited)
8:46 PM
It isn't something I am quite sure about, but it is an idea that's gotten stuck in my head and is building up more weight as time passes.
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Moonlit_Menagerie 8/18/2018 8:48 PM
I came into it for other, more personal reasons
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The most dangerous thing to an adolescent led me here
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Drugs Unprotected sex
9:11 PM
Which leads to the above mentioned xP
9:12 PM
Drug phase was short since it turned sour, good thing.
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think I'm getting some vocality one thing that stood out was what sounded like "soy dah-mer"(with re sound from fire) could just be tulpish but feels like it's from something any idea what?
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bduddy #Diana# 8/19/2018 2:49 AM
:/
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tulpas aren't kids. They don't have to learn language from babbling.
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Could you just... ask?
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really I've always heard tulpish is pretty common I might not be up to date on things, and I have trouble getting responses there was what kind of a conversation through silent static but that's pretty much it
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bduddy #Diana# 8/19/2018 2:53 AM
tulpish is raw thought, which should be very easy to interpret. It's not gibberish.
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huh never heard it put like that
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bduddy #Diana# 8/19/2018 2:54 AM
that seems to be how it's usually put, at least in my experience.
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from what I've read it can sound like gibberish at first but what I'm getting could just be a bad "connection" I have to drive somewhere som I'm going to try and follow through best I can but not sure how much more I'll get
2:56 AM
I do wonder if the guides have changed much over four years though
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bduddy #Diana# 8/19/2018 2:57 AM
err, yes.
2:59 AM
well, anyway. Just keep talking. No one is going to be able to interpret what goes on in your own brain better than you.
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fair enough it was mainly a shot in the dark
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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/19/2018 5:45 AM
I'm gonna paste this here too. ---- uh... I did something bad. I said something I probably shouldn't have to Cia, and now she's mad at me and isn't responding. The issue for me is I just can't spend a day without questioning whether this is all a good idea and whether or not she exists. It might be stupid, but I can't help it. The occasional sentience test I jump she can't really answer either that well either, which is just adding to it. This isn't a one off issue - the day she became vocal was also the day she opened up for the first time and called me out for doubting her existence. I'm tired, she's tired, and I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to get over this stupid mountain of doubt and insecurity.
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Deleted User 8/19/2018 5:56 AM
I used to slap my host, that kinda worked... probably not the best idea by any means What we do anymore whenever he's doubting me or I'm doubting me is just looking back and remembering everything we've done together, and especially what we were feeling then-- just seeing how different and unique I am from him, and really feeling that, is more than enough evidence for him to oppose any doubts
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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/19/2018 5:56 AM
We've only had 3 weeks of history right now and unfortunately not that much interaction
5:56 AM
I try to, but it's hard
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Deleted User 8/19/2018 5:58 AM
You could maybe try drowning it out? Make up whatever kind of bs explanation to yourself to get rid of bs doubts
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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/19/2018 5:58 AM
that... kind of makes it worse since I start mentally slapping myself
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Deleted User 8/19/2018 6:18 AM
I'm sorry, we had to run off >.<
6:18 AM
I really don't know what to tell you, just.... she is real, I can tell you that
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I wish you the best, both of you
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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/19/2018 6:24 AM
Yeah, that's fine
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